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              Recovered HARLEY H HALL Recovered  
HALL, HARLEY HUBERT REMAINS RETURNED 06/95 (I.D. disputed)
Name: Harley Hubert Hall Rank/Branch: O5/US Navy, pilot Unit: 
Fighter Squadron 143,
USS ENTERPRISE 
(CV-65) Date of Birth: 23 December 1937 (Broken Bow NE) Home City
of Record: 
Vancouver WA Date of Loss: 27 January 1973 Country of Loss: South 
Vietnam Loss Coordinates: 165129N 1071023E (YO345650) 
Status (in 1973): Prisoner of War Category: 1 Acft/Vehicle/Ground
: F4J Other Personnel In Incident: Phillip A. Kientzler 
(released 1973) 
Source: Compiled by Homecoming II Project 01 April  1990 from 
one or more of the following: raw data from U.S. Government 
agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published 
sources, interviews. Updated by the P.O.W. NETWORK 2008.
 
                                   
REMARKS: KIENTZLER TOLD HALL KILLED
SYNOPSIS: CDR Harley H. Hall was the commanding officer of 
Fighter Squadron 143 onboard 
the aircraft carrier USS ENTERPRISE. On January 27, 1973 he and 
his Radar Intercept Officer (RIO), LTCDR Philip A. 
Kientzler, launched in their F4J Phantom fighter aircraft on an 
attack mission against North Vietnamese supplies and logistic 
vehicles 15 miles northwest of Quang Tri, South Vietnam. Hall 
and Kientzler were under the direction 
of an OV10 Forward Air Controller 
(FAC).CDR Hall's aircraft came under intense anti-aircraft fire 
while attacking several trucks and was hit. He made an attempt 
to fly back out to the safety of the sea, but minutes later the 
aircraft caught fire on the port wing and fuselage. Both Hall 
and his co-pilot, LCDR Philip A. Kintzler ejected at 4,000 feet 
and were seen to land 100 feet apart near a village on an island 
in the Dam Cho Chua and Cua Viet Rivers. CDR Hall was seen moving
about on the ground, discarding his parachute. No voice contact 
was made with the men, and the probability of immediate capture 
was considered very high. Numerous aircraft made several passes 
over the area for the next several
hours and were unsuccessful in observing either of the downed 
crewmen. Several emergency beepers were heard intermittently the 
remainder of the afternoon and throughout the night, however, no 
voice contact was established. Active, 
organized search and rescue efforts were subsequently terminated. 
Only Kientzler was released at Operation Homecoming in 1973. He 
reported that during parachute descent they 
received heavy ground fire, at which time he was hit in the leg. 
He last saw CDR Hall as they touched the ground. When he asked 
his guards about his pilot, he was told that he was killed by 
another. No other returned POW reported having knowledge of 
Harley Hall, yet the Pentagon maintained him in POW status for 
over 6 years, and documents were obtained that indicated that he 
was indeed captured. The Hanoi government claims to have no 
knowledge of CDR Harley 
Hall. This former member of the famed Blue Angels flight team 
remains missing. Harley Hall was shot down on the last day of 
the war and was the last Navy air casualty of the Vietnam War. 
He was the last American to be classified Prisoner of War in the 
Vietnam War. Harley H. Hall was promoted to the rank of Captain 
during the period he was maintained as a prisoner.
[hhall.95 08/22/95] DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WASHINGTON D.C. 20340 
      DIA EVALUATION OF INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE SOCIALIST REPUBLIC 
OF VIETNAM IN THE CASE OF COMMANDER HARLEY HALL, USN On 13 July 
1988, during a remains repatriation ceremony in Hanoi, 
representatives of the Vietnamese Office For  Seeking Missing 
Persons (VNOSMP) furnished Joint Casualty 
Resolution Center (JCRC) officials with six written investigative 
reports. In the case of Commander Harley H. Hall, USN, the 
written report reiterates much of the information previously 
furnished by the U.S. in the JCRC negotiation narrative. It goes 
on to claim that a  "team" as well as two "VNOSMP" specialists," 
visited the location where the Navy officer was; lost, researched
historical documents in the villages and talked to "individuals 
directly related to this incident.
" According to the report, "Commander Phillip" (LCDR Phillip 
Kientzler, returnee) was captured; the other commander was found 
dead and buried in a trench. The investigative team claims to 
have visited the grave site and observed that it had been 
exhumed and the remains taken. The local populace allegedly told 
the team that "from about 1981-1982 up until the present time, 
many people from different areas came to rob the grave, a total 
of as many as eight occasions, the most recent being February 
1988 Because of this, nothing is left in the grave site 
to be recovered. The local authorities carried out an 
investigation concerning the grave robbery but without results.
"The report concludes with the comment that the investigative 
team is not able to recover the remains of this pilot.
While we have no information which would indicate that Commander 
Hall survived to become a captive of the Vietnamese, the claims 
made by the Socialist Republic of Vietnam  (SRV) authorities 
regarding this incident stretch credulity and totally contradict 
their known policies and practices in handling remains of 
Americans based upon all-source intelligence collection efforts 
over a period spanning more than two decades, we can state with 
certainty that there is a centrally administered program which 
Outlines strict procedures for handling the remains of Americans. 
Throughout the war the Communist forces enforced a policy to 
find and bury Americans killed in action, and captured enemy 
documents continually stressed that this effort was important to 
the "political struggle." The procedures required that a full 
written report on the incident be prepared, to include a sketch 
of the burial location. When possible, photos of the Americans 
were supposed to be taken, and all personal effects documents, 
maps, etc. were to be forwarded with the written report up the 
chain of command to Hanoi. 
Americans were buried in marked graves in well defined (if 
primitive by U.S. standards) cemeteries. Buried with them would 
be a paper which included the American's name, date, place and 
cause of death. This procedure was also followed in burying 
Vietnamese soldiers killed in battle. Vietnamese public health 
laws require that remains be buried for at least three years 
before they are exhumed (a common Vietnamese practice) and 
reinterred in a final location. In the case of many Americans, 
after being buried for three years or more, remains were probably
prepared and stored in a warehouse type situation.  In the 
specific instance of Commander Hall, if indeed he died at the 
time of his loss incident, one must presume that the outlined 
procedures were followed and he was not simply buried in  a  
convenient nearby trench. Further, the area area where he was 
lost  was under the control of combat troops at the time, which 
calls into question the Vietnamese claim that it was necessary 
to review village historical documents (which probably do not 
exist) and talk to villagers allegedly involved in the incident. 
Further, had villagers been interviewed and local documents 
researched, the VNOSMP representatives would have certainly 
discovered information on the two Americans who were lost in this 
same area only minutes after Commander Hall's aircraft was 
downed. The claim that the grave was repeatedly robbed by "many 
people from different areas," is highly implausible. In general,
Vietnamese citizens are highly superstitious about the dead and 
are not roaming the country robbing graves. Further, as all 
personal effects would have been previously forwarded to Hanoi, 
it should be well known to any would-be grave robbers that there 
is nothing of monetary value in the grave Over the past several 
years numerous SRV actions and statements appear to be aimed 
toward creating the illusion that they have difficulty accounting
for missing Americans because private citizens are recovering 
and trafficking in remains. This is simply not the case. 
In summary, the report furnished by the SRV is implausible and 
in direct conflict with their known policies and practices. 
Based on the circumstances of Commander Hall's loss we believe 
the communist government of Vietnam has more information and for 
reason; known only to them has decided to concoct this story 
instead. 
TO: Department of Defense From: Mary Louise Hall (Mrs. Harley 
Hall) DATE:   September 13,1993   
RE: ALLEGED "ACCOUNTING" for "REMAINS" OF POW HARLEY H. HALL, USN
(3 FRONT TEETH)
  QUALIFIED ACKNOWLEDGMENT UNDER PROTEST FOR OBJECTIVITY AND 
TRUTH            
Dear Sirs:
In response to the recent recovery of three of Capt. Harley 
Hall's front teeth from the site of his downing and capture on 
1 1/27/73 3 in Quang Tri Province, I would like the following to
go on record: While I acknowledge these to be three of my 
husband's correctly identified teeth (confirmed by a dental 
expert), I object most strenuously to the inference that they 
constitute evidence of death, and I by no means acknowledge or 
accept them as an accounting of the person of Harley H. Hall. 
As such, they represent not only insufficient evidence for case 
closure, but more importantly, BLATANTLY CONTRADICT ALL UNITED 
STATES GOVERNMENT ASSERTIONS 
& INTELLIGENCE ON THE HARLEY H. HALL CASE. Specifically, various
U.S. Agencies have consistently maintained that he could NOT 
POSSIBLY have died AT THAT SITE, i.e. Quang Tri, an inference 
drawn from multiple references of captivity elsewhere.Apart from 
the obvious fact that adults frequently lose teeth, which was 
notorious among POWs the condition of the teeth, the fact that 
they are front teeth, and especially the LOCATION of discovery 
all point to a more obvious or plausible explanation. 
Namely, Capt. Hall was either punched, received a blow to the 
mouth by his captors, these teeth were extracted, or fell out 
due to malnutrition and poor care. As to the location of his 
alleged 'death':
1. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE: Naval Intelligence informed me two weeks 
after his downing that Harley had been captured - an absolute 
certainty based on first hand sensitive intelligence. It was 
the U.S. Government itself that had the information to change 
his status to Category I: Capture Confirmed 
   (Early documents sent to me under the Freedom of Information 
Act indicated all four crewmen in Quang Tri incidents that day 
were captured. Capt. Hall remained in Category 1 POW status for 
a full seven years (1973 - 80) until all such cases except 
Charles Shelton, USAF, were altered to 
   "PFOD (Presumptive Finding Of Death)."
2. DR. ROGER SHIELDS: It soon became evident that Harley was not 
only captured, but had arrived at a prison site of some sort. I 
was personally told by POW/MIA expert Dr. Roger Shields that 
Harley's was "one of the compelling, if not THE most compelling 
case of capture he had ever reviewed." 
  "They are holding your husband, Mrs. Hall, one way or another,"
(the inference clearly being 'dead or alive') "and they can 
answer for him and never settle for anything LESS."
3. THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY: NSA files have subsequently 
revealed that Capt. Hall was tracked from battalion to battalion 
to a particular PRISON CAMP ON THE VIETNAMESE/LAO BORDER, hence 
NOT in Quang Tri Province.
4. DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY REPORT: On 13 July, 1988, the 
DIA issued an analysis of Vietnamese reports to General Vessey 
about an "unrecoverable body" in the Quang Tri area which had 
falle "into a trench." DIA analysis countered that this "answer" 
was totally unacceptable, and that the SRV report was a 
concoction "implausible and in conflict with their known 
policies and practices ' regarding Americans.' The area was 
heavily patrolled by North Vietnamese troops who would not 
have to resort to local villagers to account for an American 
downed under their noses 
   (See Attached). Next, local "witnesses" began to tell of an 
American body, allegedly Harley's "buried there,' but digging 
teams repeatedly found nothing. But now the sudden turnover   
of three teeth from Quang Tri is viewed as a "resolution," while 
in fact they in no way mitigate the U.S. Government's previous  
objection to this story and insistence that Capt. Hall could not 
have died there, let alone be buried in an unrecorded spot.
5. CLASSIFIED U.S. FILES: This summer I returned to 
Washington, D.C., to review all pertinent files including 
classified material accessible to families. This reinforced my 
previous conclusion and added the STUNNING NEW REVELATION that 
Harley Hall had been INTERROGATED BY THE SOVIETS (which, 
   I hasten to point out, could not have happened had he "died" 
in the area where his teeth were allegedly lost and recovered 
twenty years later!) This is in startling contradiction to the 
U.S. Government's present bland acceptance of his "death" in the 
Quang Tri area shortly after being shot down
6. REFUGEE STATEMENTS: I realize less credence is given to 
"hearsay" from Vietnamese, but it is no secret that about the 
time of my husband's downing and capture, there was frequent 
recounting of and bragging about "the parading of a big 
Blue Angel" in Vietnam, possibly through Hanoi.
Cases of misidentification and case closing on insufficient evidence 
are not new or unique to my husband's case, but all the above shows 
me is that the United States Government's "highest national priority" 
in this area is to shorten if not eliminate the missing list and close 
the book on as many discrepancy cases as possible, even if it means a 
completely false burial of hundreds of Americans - all to 
expunge the past, achieve e a hasty and slipshod "accounting," 
and facilitate lucrative and politically expedient relation with
Hanoi. As for the incredible statement that "we have no 
information which would indicate Capt. Hall survived to become 
a captive of the Vietnamese, ' one need only consider every 
other agency cited here, and Harley's official POW status, to 
perceive a gross discrepancy and untruth. Some cases are 
genuinely resolved. My close friend, Carleen Blackburn, 
received almost full skeletal remains of her husband (notably 
with FOUR FRONT TEETH MISSING). Other cases are not. and 
perhaps never can or will be resolved. But the most 
unfortunate and painful of all are the FALSELY
   RESOLVED CASES. Thus, after twenty years of almost unbearable 
   limbo and uncertainty, I may now 
   face the worst possible case scenario: an eternal limbo, still not 
   knowing. The three teeth only 
   reinforce the intelligence on capture, while the U.S 
   Government prepares to call the case "resolved"  and cease 
   even trying to account. Such a FALSE ANSWER IS WORSE THAN 
   NONE, leaving me with less peace than before, not more!
   I do not reject receiving the three teeth, nor will I take 
   legal action against their identification, because they are 
   indeed Harley's teeth and constitute all I have of my husband 
   at the present moment. Had they been presented in the spirit 
   of further  clues  or evidence in Harley's case, and not as 
   an unwarranted "accounting" and resolution of ''death," I 
   would even welcome them as one small clue to the mystery of 
   what happened to him in captivity Be assured that my protest 
   does NOT stem from "wishful thinking," ' hoping against hope,
   " or reluctance or refusal to accept death as an inevitable 
   probable outcome. For years, I have imagined, longed for and 
   even dreamed of the dav when I could hold a proper memorial 
   service for Harley when his earthly remains could rest in U.S.
   soil. Then his children and I could experience tbe peace of 
   knowing, and begin to close the long chapter of grief. But to 
   grant burial with full military honors and a full size coffin 
   to three front teeth would not only be ridiculous, but 
   represent acquiescence in a lie.  Considering the above, I 
   protest the closure of Harley's case in the strongest possible
   terms, and implore you to leave his name on the honored list 
   of unaccounted for Americans, specifically of "focus" POW 
   cases where he was listed in the first place. (Otherwise, his
   name will wrongfully appear on the "remains returned" list, 
   and many thoughtful Americans will assume that this notorious
   case is finally resolved/settled.)
     To do otherwise on the basis of incomplete and misleading 
   "remains" of three teeth is a travesty and an affront to the 
    truth, as well as yet another blow to the families, who have 
    fought so valiantly (and had their faith so badly shaken) in 
    this cause. This is the least you owe to the men who served 
    and those of us who have paid so  high a price. 
    (signed) Mary Louise Hall, Wife Capt. Harley H. Hall USN 
    549-50-3460
    NETWORK NOTE: As of March 1998, Capt. Harley Hall is still 
    listed by the United States Government 
    as "remains returned." 
=====================
 From: "Barrett Tillman"  
To: info@pownetwork.org Subject: 
                  Cdr. Harley Hall
    Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 21:32:20 +0000 
    Gentlemen:       Congratulations on your excellent site.  
    It belatedly occurs to me       that you
    may be interested in the following article I wrote for The       
    Hook Magazine in 1999.
      http://www.tailhook.org/HallSu99.htm
Sincerely, Barrett Tillman35 years after  Harley Hall was shot down, some family members believe
he's still alive Gwen Davis was getting ready for church in Vancouver
in 1973 when the telephone rang. She learned that her brother
Harley Hall's F-4J Phantom fighter jet had been shot down on the
last day of combat in the Vietnam War. He was missing. The call
came from Harley's pregnant wife, Mary Lou, in San Diego and it
started a hopeful vigil that continues today. The hope
will be amplified Sunday, the 35th anniversary of the incident. 
Several family members and friends believe the stalwart Navy
pilot - once the commander of the elite Blue Angels flying team,
an astronaut candidate, and a graduate of Evergreen High School  
and Clark College - may be alive. Perhaps he lives in Russia or
Vietnam. Maybe he's assumed a new identity. He'd be turning 70.
"He could have even forgotten the language," said Hall's niece,
Jamie Butterfield, 43, of Vancouver,who still wears a bracelet
to remembers him. "He could have a new family." Neither Davis  
nor Mary Lou Hall is convinced that Harley Hall is dead, despite
the U.S. government's declaration on Tet Feb. 29, 1980, that Hall
was "presumed killed in action." In 1993, the Hanoi government
returned three teeth and a few bone fragments to the United States.
They were Harley's teeth, all right, Davis said. "But teeth aren't
Harley. "After an investigation, the government reported that Hall
probably died on the beach near the wreckage of his plane, and was
buried there in a trench, his remains later scattered by scavengers.
Family objectionsMary Lou Hall filed a formal, written objection to
the government's contention that the teeth and statements gathered in
Vietnam proved that Hall was dead. She argued the teeth could have
fallen out due to malnutrition or might have been extracted. She
contended a foot-thick file of government papers obtained through the
family's use of the Freedom of Information Act indicate that he was
taken prisoner and still may be alive. The returned teeth bore signs
of periodontal disease, indicating the pilot had survived some time
after the crash. Two of the teeth had marks indicating they'd been
extracted. X-rays proved only the teeth were Hall's, family
members said."Be assured that my protest does not stem from 'wishful
thinking,' hoping against hope, or reluctance or refusal to accept
death as an inevitable, probable outcome," Hall said in her 1993
letter to the Department of Defense. "For years I have imagined,
longed for and even dreamed of the day when I could hold a proper
memorial service for Harley, when his earthly remains could rest in
U.S. soil. Then his children and I could experience the peace of
knowing, and begin to close the long chapter of grief. But to grant
burial with full military honors and a full-size coffin to three
front teeth would not only be ridiculous, but represent acquiescence
in a lie."Hall said the Navy told her two weeks after he was shot down
that he had been captured. She learned through government documents
that Hall was interviewed in 1978 by Russian intelligence agents in
Vietnam. She and Davis no longer expect to receive more information
from the government, which has closed his case.
Remembering Harley Others don't know what to believe, but simply wish
to honor a man who served three tours in Vietnam and was shot down by
anti-aircraft guns just 10 hours before the cease-fire.
"I am one of probably many in the area who have not forgotten," said
retired Camas teacher Doralee St. Clair, who had Hall's niece, Jamie,
in her second-grade class. "I don't wear the bracelet anymore. It has
a lot of wear on it, but I can still clearly read his name.
"As the years go by, I think about him once in a while," St. Clair
said. "I never knew him, but I knew his niece, Jamie, and I wore the
bracelet for many, many years. I wore the first one down until it wore
out and got a second one through Harley's mother in 1982 or '83 and
that lasted longer. I wore it through my stay-at-home years, raising my
little family, and through nursing school when I became an RN and then
through years of working at Southwest Washington Medical Center."
Jamie Butterfield said she has the nickel-plated bracelet that her
father, James Hall, made for her when she was 7 years old. It still
fits but is worn.She now wears a red bracelet instead. Her son, Marc
Butterfield, 20, also wears a bracelet, even though he never knew his
great-uncle."He has grown up with the stories," said Butterfield. "He
his bracelet every day. I've taught the stories to him and he
has passed it down the line. He is very aware and done papers about it
in school. Remember, the French from World War II had people who were
prisoners for 40 or 45 years. You never know. "Last casualty
Across the country people remember, said Gwen Davis. "It's people that
we never even knew that are still wearing his bracelet," she said.
Some pick up bracelets at veterans events, such as those held at the
Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington, D.C. In Hazel Dell, a 60,000-
square-foot office building at 10000 N.E. Seventh Ave. bears his name.
It was built by developer Larry Pruitt, who attended Clark College
with Hall. It features a memorial atrium with a 12-foot-tall glass
panel etched with an illuminated likeness of Hall that rises
from a pool of cascading water. A second panel features four jets
flying in a missing-man formation."Harley's wingman, Terry Heath,
saw Harley go down, saw that he was on the ground, had disengaged his
chute and was running along the beach," Davis said. "The government
told us then to keep our mouths shut, not cause any waves, that Harley
would be home. When the POWs and Harley's co-pilot came home in March
of '73, that was the red flag for me."The co-pilot, Lt. Cmdr. Philip
A Kientzler, refused to talk to the family, Davis said. She believes
he was told by the government to remain silent. He told investigators
that Vietnamese guards told him Hall had been killed shortly after  
the crash. Kientzler died in 2005. Years later, there were reports
that the Viet Cong had bragged about parading a "Big Blue Angel"
through the streets of Hanoi. Hall has gone down in history as the
last Navy casualty of the Vietnam War. He is known as the last
American to be classified as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. But, for
the family, that's not the end of the story. Dean Baker writes about
military affairs. Reach him at 360-759-8009 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 360-759-8009 FREE  end_of_the_skype_highlighting or e-mail  
dean.baker@columbian.com
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 THE POW-MIA

I'm just a nameles silhouette; nobody knows my face, Though many of you pray for me each day; The man you said you won. t forget, in a dark and distant place.
 
I am the POW; I am the MIA.

I am a Navy pilot; I am a dead Marine; I am the wounded grunt they couldn. t find. But I'm living still, and I. m long dead,
and I. m somewhere in between,



 
                         And I can. t believe that I was left behind.
  
They killed me in an ambush, and they captured me alive, And I died when my Huey crashed and burned. They over-ran my unit, but I managed to survive, And they brought me North in chains when they returned.

They beat me and they whipped me, and they worked me .
til I dropped. To break my will, they made their best endeavor. When great despair had gripped me, still the torture never stopped, And they told me: . We can keep you here forever..

They told me that my parents died, that my kids were grown
and gone; And my wife lost hope, and married
my best friend. But there. s a prayer hold inside, that helps
me to go on: That someone still remembers, and you. ll bring me Home again.v

 
I'm just a nameless silhouette; nobody knows my face, Though many of you pray for me each day;The man you said
you won.t forget, in a dark and distant place.
   
                            I am the POW; I am the MIA. 
                                  Tim Murphy �. 1986           
                     
 
  I Have Adopted ... I Have Adopted ...
    
           

POW/MIA OPERATION JUST CAUSE_U.S.N. CAPT HARLEY H. HALL_MY ADOPTED POW/MIA

                
                                   

                                    Recovered HARLEY H HALL Recovered     
                   
                                                              YOU ARE THE
                                                  
                                            VISITOR
                                        
                                  
                                                
                           RecoveredHARLEY H HALL Recovered
                                                                       
                              
                       
                           
                      
 
                  
 
        
                        Recovered HARLEY H HALL Recovered  
                     
               
                                      
                                  Recovered HARLEY H HALL Recovered                            
                  
                              
                       
                                                
                                       HARLEY HALL
                    U.S.N. CPT
                VF-143 CVW-14
              USS ENTERPRISE 
              
          F4-J PHANTOM FIGHTER JET
                 
THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF
VANCOUVER, WASHINGTON UNITED  
TOGETHER AND ORIGINALLY FOUNDED
AND HONORED USN CAPT HARLEY
HUBERT HALL BY ORGANIZING THE
VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA  
CHAPTER 512 OF VANCOUVER,  
WASHINGTON 98660 OF WHICH I'AM
 MEMBER OF  CHAPTER 512.
                                    
 I'AM DEDICATING THIS SITE TO ALL
OUR POW/MIA's BY HONORING MY
HOMETOWN POW/MIA...AS WELL AS
MY OPERATION JUST CAUSE ADOPTED
POW/MIA U. S. NAVY CAPTIAN HARLEY
HALL OF VANCOUVER, WASHINGTON. 
HARLEY WAS AN F4-J PHANTOM JET
FIGHTER PILOT WHO WAS SHOT
DOWN OVER NORTH VIETNAM ONLY
TEN HOURS BEFORE THE ARMISTIS
WAS SIGHNED TO END THE
VIETNAM WAR OF WHICH THE
COPILOT COMMANDER KITZNER WAS
IN  THE 1975 PRISONER RELEASE    
HARLEY  HALL WAS LOST TO NVA  
FORCES IN AN OPEN
FIELD BEHIND ENEMY LINES SOME
WHERE IN COMMUNIST NORTH  
VIETNAM 1973.  HARLEY WAS THE  
VERY LAST KNOWN  POW/MIA TO BE  
LOST IN VIETNAM NEVER TO BE
FOUND.     
                          
                       
                    
                              Recovered HARLEY H HALL Recovered
               
                F4-J PHANTOM FIGHTER JET

Posted for: HARLEY HUBERT HALL:
When I armed your F-4 (Aircraft #113)on that last day of the war, we both grinned knowing that this was the last. Little did I know what "last" really meant. I look back now and wish that I hadn't loaded those 6 MK-82's on your bird. I now wish that your bird was down. But, knowing you, you would have launched anyway. Thanks H-3, I'll never forget you!!
Posted by: CWO3 M.W.Johnson
Email:
Relationship: We served together
Tuesday, April 30, 2002
               
                 
          
            
               
                                          
                           Recovered HARLEY H HALL Recovered     
                              
                 F4-J PHANTOM FIGHTER JET

 
Casualty Record fr Harley Hubert Hall(Click here for help with decoding this information)
GENERAL / PERSONAL
HomeVancouver, Washington
Birth Date1937-12-23
SexMale
RaceCaucasian
Married/SingleMarried
ReligionProtestant - No Preference
CitizenYes
MILITARY
ServiceNavy
RankCAPT
Serial Number549503460
ComponentRegular
GradeO6
MOS1310
Length of Service**
Start of Tour1973-01-27
CASUALTY
Casualty Date1980-02-29
Casualty TypeHostile, Died Captured
ReasonAir Loss, Crash - Land
Air or GroundFixed Wing - Pilot
CountrySouth Vietnam
ProvinceQuang Tri
Posthumous PromotionNo change
Body RecoveredBody not recovered
Location on The WallPanel 01W - Row 112
RefNo1548
Processed Date8003
Comments        

                   
            
                             
                                        
                                       Recovered HARLEY H HALL Recovered                      
                                                       
                                                                              
USS ENTERPRISE F-4 Phantom II VF-143
POW Medal

Naval Aviator

                Purple Heart, Air Medal, National Defense, Vietnam Service, Vietnam Campaign               
    Harley H. Hall   



                              HARLEY HUBERT HALL
                                       U.S.N.   CAPT
 VF - 143 CVW - 14  USS ENTERPRISE
  F4-J PHANTOM JET FIGHTER PILOT
 SHOT DOWN OVER NORTH VIETNAM
 TEN HOURS BEFORE THE FINAL
 SIGNING OF THE ARMISTIS IS THE
LAST KNOWN POW/MIA TO BE LOST
IN VIETNAM.  HARLEY HALL WAS FROM
MY HOMETOWN OF VANCOUVER, WA
AS WELL AS MY ADOPTED POW/MIA,
AND THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF
AMERICA HALL-HOWELL CHAPTER 
#512 IN VANCOUVER, WA  WAS
DEDICATED IN HARLEY HALL'S
 HONOR!
        VANCOUVER, WASHINGTON
    HALL-HOWELL  CHAPTER  #512
                      OF THE 
                              
                            "SALUTES YOU, SIR!"
  COMMANDER HARLEY HUBERT HALL

          http://www.virtualwall.org/dh/HallHH01a.htm
                                                                       
            

                                       
                 
                                            I Have Adopted ...
                 
          
                         
                              
                                               
                                    HERE IS A COPY OF THE MEMORIAL
                                    THAT I WROTE AND POSTED ON THE 
                                    VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL 
                                             "THE VIRTUAL WALL"
                                                           FOR
                                             HARLEY HUBERT HALL
                                               
                                                         12 Apr 2006
In Memory of Harvey Hall
You Are Not Forgotten

As a native Vancouverite and Vietnam Veteran who lived in your neighborhood not far from your house in west Vancouver, Washington 98663. I pay tribute to my home town POW/MIA, on the behalf of the The Vietnam Veterans of America for Vancouver, Washington, Chapter 512. We Salute You, Sir!
Gregory Payne
Oregon Veterans Home
700 Veterans Drive
The Dalles, OR 97058
teetee199thlib@excite.com

 
MY CONTACT WITH THE HALL FAMILY
THIS IS A COPY OF AN E-MAIL RESPONCE FROM 
  THE HALL FAMILY ON THE TRIBUTE I WROTE ON
HARLEY HALL's MEMORIAL ON THE  
     VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL THE VIRTUAL
WALL.


POSTED BELOW

GUEN HALL DAVIS
HARLEY HALL'S SISTER


HARLEY HALL'S FAMILY .& FRIE
GUEN HALL DAVIS
HARLEY HALL'S SISTER
JUST CLICK ON THE PHOTOGRAPH ABOVE AND VISIT
"HARLEY HALL'S FAMILY & FRIENDS HALL OF
HONOR Photo Album" 


                             teetee199thlib@excite.com                                   
   Dear. Mr. Payne,
  I want to thank you for your comments about my brother, Capt. Harley H.
   Hall. The VVA Chapter 512 has been a big comfort and support group to the
            Hall Family. God bless you.
            Gwen Hall Davis

 
  HERE ARE MORE COMMENTS FROM THE HALL FAMILY ON THIS WEBSITE I WROTE UNDER OPERATION JUST CAUSE IN MY GUESTBOOK. 
        
 Gwen Hall Davis 
Greg,  Words cannot express how much your website means to the Hall family.  If a decision based on evidence (three front teeth) generates a  conclusion that nothing further can be done to account for an individual, the case is then put into a "no further pursuit" category.  This signals that further active US effort ends.  Your website keeps Harley before the citizens, and many unanswered questions very much alive.  Thank you so much!
Gwen Hall Davis
LOGO
Greg, Your website just blows me away!  Thank you so much!  I have
transferred it to my aol website.......Gw3Da@aol  where I get most of
my mail.  I would be honored to join...will write more later.  God
Bless!  You have certainly made my day!  Keep in touch and I will do
the same.  I've passed your website on to several of Harley's 
"Blue's" family.
With much appreciation,
Gwen

 
GUEN HALL DAVIS
HARLEY HALL'S SISTER
JUST CLICK ON THE PHOTOGRAPH ABOVE AND VISIT
"HARLEY HALL'S FAMILY & FRIENDS HALL OF
HONOR Photo Album"
       
            
    
       
                        
                                                      
                     
      
           
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     
 
     
  

   Recovered HARLEY H HALL Recovered

 
   Cross: POW/MIA 
                                       
  
       
IN HONOR OF ALL THE FAMILIES
OF OUR POW/MIA'S I WILL PROVIDE
THEM WITH SOME HELP LINKS.

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http://www.pow-miafamilies.org/ 

U.S. DEPT OF VA
http://www.va.gov/
      
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            http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org./
     
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 WAR/MISSING PERSONNEL OFFICE

http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/ 
      
    
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Gregory Z. Payne writes:I light this candle in the honor of the last POW/MIAcasuality of the Vietnam War 1973:U.S.N. COMMANDER HARLEY HUBERT HALLF4-J Phantom fighter jet pilot never to be found.Vancouver, WashingtonIn dedication and in honor fromThe Vietnam Veterans of AmericaHall-Howell Chapter #512Vancouver, Washington"We Salute You, Sir!"Author: Gregory Z. PayneE-mail: teetee199thlib@gmail.com Added:March 29, 2008 I LIGHT THIS CANDLE TO HONOR POW*MIA USN CAPT HARLEY HALL VANCOUVER, WA 98666 I LIGHT THIS CANDLE OPERATION JUST CAUSE

I'AM THE POW I'AM THE MIA

THE POW-MIA
I'm just a nameless
silhouette; nobody knows my face,. Though many of you pray for me each
day;The man you said you won. t forget, in a dark and distant place.I am
the POW; I am the MIA.
I am a Navy pilot; I am a dead Marine;I am
the wounded grunt they couldn. t find.But I'm living still, and I. m long
dead, and I. m somewhere in between,And I can. t believe that I was left
behind.
They killed me in an ambush, and they captured
me alive,And I died when my Huey crashed and burned.They over-ran my
unit, but I managed to survive,And they brought me North in chains when they
returned.
They beat me and they whipped me, and they
worked me . til I dropped.To break my will, they made their best
endeavor.When great despair had gripped me, still the torture never
stopped,And they told me: . We can keep you here forever..
They told me that my parents died, that my kids
were grown and gone; Andmy wife lost hope, and married my best friend. But
there. s a prayer Ihold inside, that helps me to go on: That someone still
remembers, andyou. ll bring me Home again.v
I'm just a nameless silhouette; nobody knows my
face,. Though many of you pray for me each day;The man you said you won.
t forget, in a dark and distant place.I am the POW; I am the MIA.
Tim Murphy �.
1986

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THE DEATH OF A SOUL "DRESSED TO KILL"

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Did you know that I died in Vietnam? It was not a bloody death. Only the
death of my soul. It was the essence of life that gave
wholeness. The link with God and the universe. The
inner substance that provides security!
Especially in those desperate hours. It
was the Spiritual Self that died. K.I.A. 1968! There was no blood, no tangible evidence, no medal, no letter home announcing
the deceased.
No prayers and no tears were shed. Nor
has any wall been erected, nor any memorial built. Nothing! Only a sence of
violation. an emptyness a change, an inner void. An ever present sense of
loss. the kind of loss you feel when you lose a loved
one. A heartache that lingers with you, You are left struggling without your Spirituality or
wholeness. Only Agony remains!
Darwin D. Savage 101st Airborne - Vietnam
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MY 1956 CHEVROLET

MY 1956 CHEVROLET
MY 1956 CHEVROLET

THIS SITE IS IN DEDICATION TO MY WIFE: JUANITA PAYNE

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JUANITA AND SHAWN - HOQUIAM PARK- WEDDING PICTURES

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MY WEDDING PICTURE AT HOQUIAM PARK

MY WEDDING PICTURE AT HOQUIAM PARK
L-R - (ME) GREG, JUANITA, KATHY. MOM AND MY DAD

REMINDS ME OF MY 1955 CHEVEROLET

REMINDS ME OF MY 1955 CHEVEROLET
REMINDS ME OF MY 1955 CHEVEROLET

OUR APARTMENT BUILDING AT OCEAN SHORES, WA 98550

OUR APARTMENT BUILDING AT OCEAN SHORES, WA 98550
JUANITA AND MY (OUR) APARTMENT BUILDING AT OCEAN SHORES, WA 98550

JUANITA ROSE REID-(PAYNE) KRAHN - (MY WIFE) PICTURE TAKEN IN CANADA IN 2009

JUANITA ROSE REID-(PAYNE) KRAHN  - (MY WIFE) PICTURE TAKEN IN CANADA IN 2009
JUANITA ROSE REID-(PAYNE) KRAHN - (MY WIFE) PICTURE TAKEN IN CANADA IN 2009

JUANITA (MY WIFE)

JUANITA  (MY WIFE)
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MY LITTLE SISTER KATHY'S AIR FORCE MILITARY PICTURES

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MY LITTLE SISTER KATHY'S WEDDING

MY LITTLE SISTER KATHY'S WEDDING
L-R, GRANPA AND GRANDMA CLARK, MY LITTLE SISTER KATHY, AND GRANDMA AND GRANDPA PAYNE

THE CRUSIFIXION

THE CRUSIFIXION
THE CRUSIFIXION

IT IS FINISHED

IT IS FINISHED
IT IS FINISHED

HE IS RISEN

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TODAY - (ME) GREG PAYNE

TODAY - (ME) GREG PAYNE
NOW - (ME) GREG PAYNE - TODAY AT 63 YEARS OLD

THE QUILT

THE QUILT As I faced my Maker at the last Judgement, I knelt before the Lord along with the other souls. Beforeeach of us laid our lives, like the squares of aquilt, in many piles. An Angel sat before each of us sewing our quilt squares together into a tapestry that is our life. But, as my Angel took each piece of cloth off the pile, I noticed how ragged and empty each of my squares was. They were filled with giant holes. Each square was labeled with a part of my life that had been difficult, the challenges andtemptations I was faced with in everyday life. Isaw hardships that I had endured, which were the largest holes of all.I glanced around me. Nobody else had such squares.Other than a tiny hole here and there, the other tapestries were filled with rich color and the brighthues of worldly fortune. I gazed upon my own life and was disheartened. My Angel was sewing the ragged pieces of cloth together, threadbare and empty, like binding air. Finally the time came when each life was to be displayed, held up to the light, the scrutiny of truth. The others rose, each in turn, holding up their tapestries. So filled their lives had been.My Angel looked upon me, and nodded for me to rise. My gaze dropped to the ground in shame. I hadn't had all the earthly fortunes. I had love in my life, and laughter. But there had also been trials of illnessand death, and false accusations that took from memy world as I knew it. I had to start over many times.I often struggled with the temptation to quit, only to somehow muster the strength to pick up and begin again.I had spent many nights on my knees in prayer, asking for help and guidance in my life. I had often been held up to ridicule, which I endured painfully; each time offering it up to the Father in hopes that I wouldnot melt within my skin beneath the judgmental gaze of those who unfairly judged me. And now, I had to face the truth. My life was what it was, and I had toaccept it for what it had been.I rose and slowly lifted the combined squares of mylife to the light. An awe-filled gasp filled the air.I gazed around at the others who stared at me with eyes wide. Then, I looked upon the tapestry before me. Light flooded the many holes, creating an image.The face of Christ. Then our Lord stood before me, with warmth and love in His eyes. He said,"Every time you gave over your life to Me, it became My life, My hardships, and My struggles. Each pointof light in your life is when you stepped aside and let Me shine through, until there was more of Methan there was of you. May all our quilts be threadbare and worn, allowing Christ to shine through.

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A Promotional gymic ELVIS PRESELY AND (ME) GREG PAYNE both of us had been to or served on Hill #937 "Hamburger Hill" in May of 1969

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